8 Player Vanilla

[[Team] Kilemal]

The 100% ratio estimate was based upon my experience with the 16 player game. Anymore than 10 players in that game and the ratio needed to be on 100% or it just wasn't any fun at all. The smaller game is entirely different however and until we figure it out there is no "correct" ratio. There are just too many variables involved.


And now we have people asking for more bots in the game when no one seems able to win against the number we already have . . . . .
This is just making no sense to me.

[[Team] Traz]

Can we try and do tests with regulars on one map and the newer players or a mix on the other?

[Super-Medic-Ace]

I don't know about you, but there are few games I have lost with other experienced players - especially the regulars. I personally have an 85% win ratio with 440+ games on TEAM servers, and others have higher ratios... Most of those losses are from map votes as soon as the game starts (we almost always lose the round that way). I like the suggestions that have been mentioned - especially Traz's suggestion just before this post (doing tests with regulars).

[fe7felix]

i too think it would be a nice rule not to steal enmy chopper tnks etc in vanilla.
give some more use at the igla and sttionary antitank things.. more tactic and some defens strategies. i personally like to rush but this way we would force teamwork still a lil more i thunk
thats less points (for some and more for many) & flying (i love flying), but when i want to fly, i go aix or custom..

[MisterPWN]

I agree with your first post Kilemal. Depending on the players and ratio the new vanilla can be much harder, or relatively easy. The first time I hopped into one of the servers it seemed much harder, the mechanics of the game are very different from the 16 player vanilla. Also the rounds do tend to last a bit longer, even with a large team and the game going in our favor, they still last around a half hour.

The idea of a 10 player vanilla could be a happy medium between 8 and 16, but the issues with the ratio should probably be looked into with what we have now. Thanks for all your work on this

[[Team] Jenifearia]

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND THERE IS NO NEED TO ADD

So I need to Apologize to Steve as well to all of those who have posted here in response to my post. This was an informative forum thread from steve to everyone that I addressed my personal thoughts in an inappropriate manner. as one of your leaders I should have addressed any concerns I had directly to steve in a PM. Steve puts a lot of time and energy into the games here and I appreciate all that he does. He continues to try to improve upon our servers to make this place an even more enjoyable place to play.
Due to the fact that all of us have different preferences and styles of play it is impossible to please everyone but whatever is done you can be sure that it is in the best interest of the people that play here. I hope that this clears things up AGAIN NO NEED TO ADD ANYTHING FURTHER

Sorry again and thanks for listening

[[Team] Mytrap]

first off dont get on the subject of any % here on this form. that is an admin only form or on ventrillo between admins only.
I will say this though If your an admin and you think the map is to easy look at who is in there with you, and if its just you then its your fault it is to easy.
Why is it your fault, because you were given the power to change the diffaculty Lv. Just remember when we get the noobs or first timers to our servers they come to us unprepaired. Or as some of you put it They get Schooled because our server is tougher then all the others. What we call easy
maps will be hard for them. I remember all of you comming to the Team-Nitro server playing a few maps and then saying man these bots are hard and in the same breath say how much fun you had. So Bf2cc admins if your not having fun then its your fault change settings while your in there so you do have fun. You have more experance and Team skills playing here now then the new people. They come to us to have fun and I know Team-Nitro does just that.

This thread if continued(for admins) need to be on admins only thread

[sniper_squirrelx]

Team Nitro is the best server going, bar none!

thanks to all for their hard work in making that happen, maybe I tend to forget it takes that to keep this fun going.

Trap hit it, alot of fun to be had here...thanks again to all of you for that!! fun places are at a premium these days, need to remind myself of that on occasion.

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